In this episode of Further, Brenton Grimm sits down with pastors Clay Baker and Matt Mitchell to talk about why prayer can feel difficult and how we can grow in it. They unpack common struggles like self-reliance, distraction, and routine prayers that feel empty, and share practical ways to experience real intimacy with God. The conversation also clarifies Jesus’ promise that believers will do “greater works,” explaining that it’s about the Spirit’s power working through ordinary people, not outdoing Jesus Himself. Clay and Matt encourage faithfulness in everyday life — from parenting to ordinary service — and show how true joy and lasting impact flow from abiding in Christ. They wrap up with practical tips for a richer prayer life, like praying Scripture, journaling, and starting your quiet time with prayer.

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