TW: Language

We battled some serious technical goblins bringing you this episode (and Andrea was still pretty loopy on pain pills after surgery but was a real trooper!) - even after weeks of editing, there's some rough spots we can't avoid, and hope they don't detract from the episode's content. We blame Alien Interference - tell us on Twitter what you think it could be!

We're thrilled to finally bring you a conversation with one of our favorite humans: writer, investigator, musician, lead of the Bird Army and all around Master of Cool,  A. P. Strange - better known around these parts as just "Matt," or the Perfect Haired Oracle of the East. He and Sara work some forms of Chaos Magic together, and it works...although, sometimes it's paired with unintended consequences.  We discuss with Andrea how having effective magic isn't as complicated as you might think, and how not taking yourself too seriously is a big part of that.   Sara and Matt aren't done creating chaos in this particular simulation. If you want in on the madness, you can help us try to bring back The King... as in Elvis.  We expect him to re-appear around Christmas time, maybe even in a UFO - HAIL ERIS!  We also are proud to bring you an important and timely message from our first Sponsor, Magical Jobcat! Complete show notes HERE. 

Thanks for listening!