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Episode 157 - Supreme: The Return with Logan Crowley

Episode 157 - Supreme: The Return with Logan Crowley

Update: 2025-11-08
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This week on Men of Steel, Case and Jmike are joined once again by Logan Crowley to dive into the back half of Alan Moore's Supreme saga — Supreme: The Return! We explore how Moore redefined heroism through metafiction, nostalgia, and some of the boldest Superman-adjacent storytelling of the '90s.

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Originally aired: November 8, 2025

Edited by Sophia Ricciardi

Scored by Geoff Moonen

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Outline
Introduction and Context Setting on Supreme Comic Series (00:00  - 10:00 )
  • Discussed the Alan Moore run on Supreme comics, focusing on the second volume, Supreme: The Return and its relation to the initial story, Supreme: The Story of the Year.
  • Introduced guest Logan Crowley and recapped the original Story of the Year to bring listeners up to speed.
Detailed Issue-by-Issue Breakdown and Analysis (10:18  - 01:56:09 )
  • Explored themes, characters, and narrative arcs of Supreme: The Return in granular detail.
  • Noted meta-narrative techniques, cultural references, inconsistencies, tonal shifts, and artistic variations issue by issue.
Art and Production Quality Discussions (15:36  - 01:24:50 )
  • Critiqued the inconsistent artwork across different issues and artists including Rick Veitch, Chris Sprouse, Jim Starlin, Ian Churchill, and Matt Smith.
  • Noted the impact of publisher issues and artist changes on overall series cohesion and visual storytelling.
Cultural and Social Commentary in the Comic (38:45  - 57:22 )
  • Discussed controversial storylines such as the Confederacy winning the Civil War due to Wild Bill Hickok's actions and its culturally sensitive implications.
  • Analyzed dated humor and some problematic depictions reflecting 1990s sensibilities.
Narrative and Thematic Observations (47:00  - 01:50:56 )
  • Discussed thematic motifs like closed time loops, meta-fictional elements, homage to classic Silver Age Superman narratives, and the contrast with other Alan Moore works like Tom Strong.
  • Explored the balance between classic superhero optimism vs. cynicism leaking through the narrative.
Discussion on Supporting Characters and Legacy (25:00  - 01:40:16 )
  • Elaborated on the roles of various supporting characters enhancing the Supreme mythos like Judy Jordan, Diana Dane, and Radar the canine hero.
  • Highlighted the influence on later comics and the impact on the Superman archetype and analog characters.
Guest Insights and Personal Reflections (00:00  - 02:30:00 )
  • Logan Crowley shared fresh perspectives, especially on the nostalgic value and unique features of Supreme.
  • J. Mike and Case Aiken reflected on the series' strengths and weaknesses as longtime fans and comic enthusiasts.
Promotions and Related Projects (02:28:00  - 02:36:00 )
  • Promoted related podcasts like Single Bound and Trade School and thanked Patreon supporters.
  • Encouraged listeners to engage with the content and share their thoughts.
 
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Episode 157 - Supreme: The Return with Logan Crowley

Episode 157 - Supreme: The Return with Logan Crowley

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