Episode 169: Cloud Save Discourse
Update: 2021-10-11
Description
We talk about the new Switch OLED model the only way we know how: browsing YouTube videos for low resolution teardowns and trying to look up part data sheets to try and figure out why Ethernet is so bad on the Switch.
Show Notes:
00:05:39 - OLED Display Concerns
00:21:53 - Ethernet Discourse
Jim Ryan is Wrong:
Jim Ryan: “I would love a world where hundreds of millions enjoy our games”
No, Jim Ryan - Gaming In The Middle East Existed Long Before PlayStation
Switch OLED:
Display
Uses PWM to control brightness, appears to go full throttle from 0-50% brightness
OLED Switch uses PWM dimming below 50% brightness: NintendoSwitch
Explanation on what PWM is
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/7uv6m3/iphone_x_uses_pulse_width_modulation_which_is_a/dto2o9l/
iPhone 13 for context begins around from under 25% brightness
Nintendo is shipping the display with a “vibrant” profile enabled out of box, burying the more color accurate “standard” mode in settings
The OLED Nintendo Switch doesn’t have a Pentile screen
Ethernet:
From this teardown it appears to be a gigabit port with a full ethernet controller
Switch OLED Full Teardown! Dock Can Upscale?! OLED vs Switch vs Lite
However real world tests are showing far less than gigabit speeds
Switch OLED hardwired still has incredible bad and embarrassing speeds: NintendoSwitch
https://twitter.com/llaffer2/status/1446587410700292109
Nintendo Switch Teardown
Using the original Switch teardown as guidance and Nintendo’s never ending ability to be cheap as forecast, assuming the Switch OLED has the same USB controller
PI3USB30532 (USB Switches)
USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gb/s Super Speed and DP 1.2 5.4Gb/s switching to USB Type C connector
The Switch OLED dock per the teardown above has a HDMI 2.0 controller on the new dock
HDMI 2.0 technically can cap out at 18Gb/s
Which is almost 4x what the USB controller on the Switch itself supports for bandwidth on the USB and DP side (~10Gb/s theoretical)
In theory this bottleneck could be causing the shit Ethernet Speeds
However nintendo could just be nintendo and doing a nintendo
MCDP2900 DisplayPort1.4a to HDMI2.0b Protocol Converter with HDCP2.3 Repeater
Newer version of the HDMI to DP converter used on the dock board
Switch 4K gaming could be added with new dock chip swap, AI upscaling
A brief aside on the Nintendo Switch Wi-Fi
Broadcom BCM4356 is the part used per the ifixit teardown
ThinkPad Yoga 260
ThinkPad L560
I don’t really have more commentary than the fact that Nintendo is shipping wifi used in Windows laptops in a 2x2 config and it’s still absolute shit
Contact:
Cristian Online
Sadiq Online
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Show Notes:
00:05:39 - OLED Display Concerns
00:21:53 - Ethernet Discourse
Jim Ryan is Wrong:
Jim Ryan: “I would love a world where hundreds of millions enjoy our games”
No, Jim Ryan - Gaming In The Middle East Existed Long Before PlayStation
Switch OLED:
Display
Uses PWM to control brightness, appears to go full throttle from 0-50% brightness
OLED Switch uses PWM dimming below 50% brightness: NintendoSwitch
Explanation on what PWM is
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/7uv6m3/iphone_x_uses_pulse_width_modulation_which_is_a/dto2o9l/
iPhone 13 for context begins around from under 25% brightness
Nintendo is shipping the display with a “vibrant” profile enabled out of box, burying the more color accurate “standard” mode in settings
The OLED Nintendo Switch doesn’t have a Pentile screen
Ethernet:
From this teardown it appears to be a gigabit port with a full ethernet controller
Switch OLED Full Teardown! Dock Can Upscale?! OLED vs Switch vs Lite
However real world tests are showing far less than gigabit speeds
Switch OLED hardwired still has incredible bad and embarrassing speeds: NintendoSwitch
https://twitter.com/llaffer2/status/1446587410700292109
Nintendo Switch Teardown
Using the original Switch teardown as guidance and Nintendo’s never ending ability to be cheap as forecast, assuming the Switch OLED has the same USB controller
PI3USB30532 (USB Switches)
USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gb/s Super Speed and DP 1.2 5.4Gb/s switching to USB Type C connector
The Switch OLED dock per the teardown above has a HDMI 2.0 controller on the new dock
HDMI 2.0 technically can cap out at 18Gb/s
Which is almost 4x what the USB controller on the Switch itself supports for bandwidth on the USB and DP side (~10Gb/s theoretical)
In theory this bottleneck could be causing the shit Ethernet Speeds
However nintendo could just be nintendo and doing a nintendo
MCDP2900 DisplayPort1.4a to HDMI2.0b Protocol Converter with HDCP2.3 Repeater
Newer version of the HDMI to DP converter used on the dock board
Switch 4K gaming could be added with new dock chip swap, AI upscaling
A brief aside on the Nintendo Switch Wi-Fi
Broadcom BCM4356 is the part used per the ifixit teardown
ThinkPad Yoga 260
ThinkPad L560
I don’t really have more commentary than the fact that Nintendo is shipping wifi used in Windows laptops in a 2x2 config and it’s still absolute shit
Contact:
Cristian Online
Sadiq Online
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