DiscoverTechs on TextsEpisode #18: Noah Iliinsky on China Mountain Zhang by Maureen F. McHugh
Episode #18:  Noah Iliinsky on China Mountain Zhang by Maureen F. McHugh

Episode #18: Noah Iliinsky on China Mountain Zhang by Maureen F. McHugh

Update: 2025-07-26
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Noah Iliinsky – most-esteemed information visualization expert, speaker and author – joins us to discuss Maureen F. McHugh's China Mountain Zhang. We talk about what matters, heavy furniture, sensible defaults, the burdens created by unnecessarily "innovative" design, pace layering, humans as instruments, and the double diamond bike.

Show notes:

Next month, Matt Price will be on to talk about Piranesi by Susanna Clarke.

New Secret School album! Enough? Remixes on Apple Music and Spotify.


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Produced by Jed Sundwall. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.

Intro music by Secret School.

Outro music is "3/10th of the Population" by WE™.

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Episode #18:  Noah Iliinsky on China Mountain Zhang by Maureen F. McHugh

Episode #18: Noah Iliinsky on China Mountain Zhang by Maureen F. McHugh

Noah Iliinsky, Jed Sundwall