"The f****** grifters. That's the podcast we shoulda launched with them." - Bill Simmons 

During his self-titled podcast, Bill Simmons, Founder of The Ringer and Head of Spotify’s global sports strategy, threw all the tea – hypothetically speaking – at the feet of Prince Harry and his wife, Meghan Markle. The comment came after reports that Harry and Meghan’s podcast, Archetypes, will not be renewed for a second season in what has been described as a mutual decision by both parties to cut ties. The Sussexes first joined forces with Spotify in 2020 after they landed a $20 million deal with the company. 

Soon, after Simmon’s comments heated up the newswire, some people punched the air in agreement, and others called foul play on the court of professionalism. Sabrina, and her dinner guests, all of whom are podcast consumers, weigh in and share their views on this business relationship gone sour. The conversations tackle challenging ideas around the differences between a value exchange and a commercial agreement, publicity stunts and whether or not the relationship between Harry and Meghan is the product and NOT the podcast. Deep. 

In typical BRKIN Bread fashion, many other meaty subjects are chewed on, and our guests delve into the dynamics of Harry and Meghan’s relationship as they walk the balance between tradition and non-traditional approaches like holding hands in public. Seems simple, but the Royal Family doesn’t play that. The fat is not trimmed. In fact, it’s grilled to perfection as Sabrina and her guests explore if and how tradition dictates gender roles. Is it because of tradition that men are expected to take out the bins while women are expected to play the good W.I.F.E., as in wash, iron, fold clothes etc.? Our guests plant seeds in the fertile land of commitment and compromise.  

Elizabeth, Laura, Keith and Reetu are BRKIN Bread Guests for Episodes 16-18. 

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