In this episode of the Inclusive Pathways Podcast, host Jessica Winchester continues the conversation with international disability advocate Michael Grimmett, to have a powerful, no-filter conversation about what real inclusion looks like. Michael shares personal stories that reveal a hard truth: a lot of spaces claim to be “inclusive” — until someone with a disability shows up. From inaccessible “inclusive” boxing gyms to everyday barriers that most people never notice, he breaks down the difference between performative inclusion and actual access.Through honesty, humor, and lived experience, Michael challenges us to rethink:

• What inclusion really means (hint: it’s not a slogan)
• The toll of being excluded again and again (in the rain)
• The power of listening to disabled voices — not just including them
• Why accessibility must be built in from the start, not added later
• How to create spaces where people don’t just enter — they belong

This episode is real, raw, and relevant.

🎧 Available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen.

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