DiscoverThe Shades of Entrepreneurship™Episode 206: Systems, Scaling & Creative Freedom with Jonathan Ronzio, Co-Founder of Trainual
Episode 206: Systems, Scaling & Creative Freedom with Jonathan Ronzio, Co-Founder of Trainual

Episode 206: Systems, Scaling & Creative Freedom with Jonathan Ronzio, Co-Founder of Trainual

Update: 2025-05-21
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In Episode 206 of The Shades of Entrepreneurship, Jonathan Ronzio, co-founder and CMO of Trainual, shares how systems, structure, and documented processes are the keys to scaling a business—and unlocking creative freedom for founders.

From adventure filmmaking to building one of the top business ops platforms, Jonathan opens up about the identity shift that comes with stepping into operations and why “you can’t scale chaos.” He explains how onboarding systems, process clarity, and team alignment help founders work on the business instead of staying trapped in it.

Whether you're a creative founder, an early-stage entrepreneur, or a leader scaling a growing team, this episode is packed with actionable insights on how to build a business that works—with or without you.

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Episode 206: Systems, Scaling & Creative Freedom with Jonathan Ronzio, Co-Founder of Trainual

Episode 206: Systems, Scaling & Creative Freedom with Jonathan Ronzio, Co-Founder of Trainual

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