In Episode 21 of REED TALK interview Philip Ross, associate principal oboist of the Saint Louis Symphony Orchestra and gouging machine creator. We grill Phil with some hard-hitting queries about all that stuff we do with cane before we tie and scrape. No doubt many of your gouging puzzles will be answered by listening! Music excerpts: Três Peças Atlânticas: Chorinho baiano by Eurico Carrapatoso performed by Courtney Miller; Bizet Symphony in C, mvt 2, Phil Ross, oboe soloist and Le Prudent from Cinquième Suitte by Jean-François Boüin performed by Margaret Marco. Reed Talk is produced by Jason Slote.