Welcome to episode 22 of Clear Lists, Full Drafts, Can’t Lose, the only podcast for fantasy television drafts! Forget fantasy football—join us for fantasy TV.

This week, we break format to have a roundtable discussion. That’s right—no lists, no drafts, just lots of talking. Brooke, Joey, and I are joined by Community Contributor Tamar Barbash to discuss shows that ended too soon—and others that went on too long.

Some of the shows we touch on are Freaks and Geeks, Veronica Mars, United States of Tara, Men of a Certain Age, Sports Night, Friends, Parenthood, and Grey’s Anatomy. We talk a lot about how long some of these shows should have been, and Joey reveals his master plan to improve How I Met Your Mother.

Listen in as we talk which season of Friends is the best and Joey gets mortally offended multiple times. Let us know what shows you think should have gone either longer or shorter.