Gavin talks about Donna’s “looping phase.” People with dementia repeat the same questions, fixate on things…and drive their loved ones crazy. Featuring Jann Arden, Aurora Browne, Gavin's husband Kyle, who – according to Donna – invented the Christmas tree.

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