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Episode 33 - Grid-Forming Charging Hardware: The Interface Unlocking the Digital Grid, with Kwetta

Episode 33 - Grid-Forming Charging Hardware: The Interface Unlocking the Digital Grid, with Kwetta

Update: 2025-10-09
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In this episode, host Christophe speaks with Mike Lazelle, CEO and co-founder of Kwetta - a highly innovative hardware company helping Charge Point Operators (CPOs) deploy high-power EV charging sites without the grid headaches

From avoiding million-euro upgrade costs to reducing site activation timelines from years to months, Kwetta is bringing a radically different approach to the energy hardware space — with grid-supportive functionality built right into the charger. 

After raising their Series A in November, Kwetta is now expanding into Europe, targeting Benelux, the Nordics, Germany, and the UK. 

What You’ll Learn 

  • Why batteries aren’t always the right answer for grid bottlenecks 
  • How Kwetta’s technology enables faster, more cost-effective connections 
  • What it takes to deploy heavy-duty charging at scale 
  • How CPOs can position themselves to win in the flexibility market 
  • Why grid-friendly charging will be a key competitive edge going forward 

Chapter Highlights 

  • 00:00 – Intro and welcome 
  • 00:36 – Mike's move from New Zealand to Amsterdam 
  • 01:40 – The origin story: co-founding Kwetta with fellow engineers 
  • 03:00 – The turning point: solving charging and grid problems in one box 
  • 04:40 – What Kwetta does and how it helps CPOs 
  • 06:24 – Kwetta in one sentence: get megawatt charging up in months, not years 
  • 06:50 – Rising grid costs, long delays, and how Kwetta addresses them 
  • 08:13 – Why Kwetta doesn't require a battery to solve DSO problems 
  • 09:00 – Integrating with smart energy management systems 
  • 10:30 – Case study: saving €1M and 2 years of delay at a constrained site 
  • 12:40 – How DSOs are responding to Kwetta’s approach 
  • 15:00 – Flexibility markets and future participation 
  • 16:40 – The evolving role of the CPO in grid balancing 
  • 18:00 – Kwetta’s rollout strategy and European focus 
  • 19:30 – What’s next: partnerships, pilots, and scale 
  • 20:45 – Advice to CPOs: why trucks change everything 
  • 21:50 – What excites Mike about 2026 
  • 22:35 – Final thoughts and wrap-up 


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Episode 33 - Grid-Forming Charging Hardware: The Interface Unlocking the Digital Grid, with Kwetta

Episode 33 - Grid-Forming Charging Hardware: The Interface Unlocking the Digital Grid, with Kwetta

Christophe Lephilibert, Robert Brehm