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Episode 335: STAR WARS (1977) with Abbie Phelps and Natalie Marlin

Episode 335: STAR WARS (1977) with Abbie Phelps and Natalie Marlin

Update: 2025-06-17
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The fact that STAR WARS is so much more than a movie makes it a little tough to talk about as, like, just a movie. But with Natalie and Abbie, we’re actually strapped in for the best discussion of STAR WARS on the internet.


In this wide-ranging discussion, we touch on the balance of intentionality and blind ambition on the part of George Lucas, STAR WARS as a corrective to the New Hollywood wave, and of course, dive into a lot of little STAR WARS trivia, ephemera, and plain useless knowledge. Like I said: best on the ‘net.


Find Abbie…



  • On Bluesky

  • On Letterboxd

  • On Trylove episodes about DRIVE ANGRY (2011), WAR OF THE WORLDS (2005), THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT (1999), TOUCH OF EVIL (1958), THE TRAIN (1964), MOULIN ROUGE! (2001), PHANTOM THREAD (2017)


Find Natalie…



  • On Twitter and Bluesky

  • On Letterboxd at @framingthepic

  • In the byline for Noise Music, a forthcoming entry in Genre: A 33 ⅓ Series book about the noise genre and its influences on and intersections with culture

  • On Trylove episodes about THE THIRD MAN (1949), CHESS OF THE WIND (1979), RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD (1985), MAD MAX: FURY ROAD (2015), MILLENNIUM MAMBO (2001), THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT (1999), LONG DAY’S JOURNEY INTO NIGHT (2018), ZARDOZ (1974), NOSTALGHIA (1987), SECONDS (1966), THERE WILL BE BLOOD (2007), THE HEARTBREAK KID (1972)


References:



#StarWars #DCP


Follow us on Twitter at @trylovepodcast, Bluesky at @trylovepodca.st, and email us at trylovepodcast@gmail.com to get in touch!


Show art by Emily Csuy. Theme: "Raindrops" by Huma-Huma/"No Smoking" PSA by John Waters. Outro music: “Star Wars Main Theme” composed and conducted by John Williams and performed by the London Symphony Orchestra from the STAR WARS soundtrack.


Timestamps


0:00 - Episode 335: STAR WARS (1977)


3:29 - The Patented Aaron Grossman Summary (under exclusive license from AG Enterprises, Ltd.)


4:34 - How do you approach STAR WARS as a movie and not just a phenomenon?


23:48 - The world STAR WARS was born in, postmodern takes, and rewatching this as a Movie Adult


44:16 - George Lucas’s earnest intentionality and wanton ambition


51:31 - Why it seems like this movie sometimes barely holds together


57:26 - Luke and Han Solo as Lucas and Coppola


1:02:59 - John Williams and the legendary score


1:18:17 - Luke’s journey and “The Force of Others”


1:33:20 - The Junk Drawer


1:57:32 - To All the Loves We’ve Tried Before: 1977


1:59:37 - Cody’s Noteys: Star Lores: A New Pope (Pope Leo XIV trivia)

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Episode 335: STAR WARS (1977) with Abbie Phelps and Natalie Marlin

Episode 335: STAR WARS (1977) with Abbie Phelps and Natalie Marlin