Episode 41: Carl Hayman

Episode 41: Carl Hayman

Update: 2023-08-29
Share

Description

The 1000th All Black talks frankly about the brutal toll of rugby, life with early-onset dementia and his battles with alcohol. He outlines how the sport should change and recalls the circumstances in which he left to play - and stay - overseas.

Oh, and he explains why he doesn't want to ditch his 1992 Nissan Patrol!

(Carl also offered his thoughts on New Zealand's Rugby World Cup prospects, but it's only fair to point out the interview was recorded before the All Blacks' record defeat, to South Africa.)

Warning: Discusses suicidal thoughts and alcoholism. For free help, text or call 1737, 24 hours.

Carl Hayman's memoir Head On, written with Dylan Cleaver, is out now.

You can read stories supporting this episode on stuff.co.nz.

Need more great podcasts? Check out Stuff's full catalogue here.

GET IN TOUCH

Feedback? Got a guest you’d like Simon to talk to? We’re listening! Email us at generallyfamous@stuff.co.nz.

CREDITS

Host: Simon Bridges

Producer: Jen Black

Audio editing and mixing: John Ropiha

Executive producer: Chris Reed

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Comments 
00:00
00:00
x

0.5x

0.8x

1.0x

1.25x

1.5x

2.0x

3.0x

Sleep Timer

Off

End of Episode

5 Minutes

10 Minutes

15 Minutes

30 Minutes

45 Minutes

60 Minutes

120 Minutes

Episode 41: Carl Hayman

Episode 41: Carl Hayman

Stuff Audio