Comedian Joe List joins me and we talk about hating ourselves, anxiety (surprise), the toxicity of social media, green tea, Sam Harris, getting grandiose when listening to music, and lots of other things. We also get into some Jack Kornfield and discuss the opposition between Buddhist notions of dropping identity and the pursuit of “self” that’s involved in stand-up comedy and self-promotion. Joe has countless credits including Letterman, Conan and Netflix. His latest special “I Hate Myself” is on Youtube. You can find him at comedianjoelist.com or on his podcast Mindful Metal Jacket.  As always, feel free to get in touch at theanxietylab@gmail.com or on Instagram @sagarbot. Music by Niall Connolly. Also, it's way too early for merch, but we like what we've done here: https://teespring.com/stores/anxiety-lab.