As we start our journey around the many trail centres in the UK for Han's next Vertebrate Publishing guide book, we popped in to have a chat with Matt Williams owner of Run & Ride, in Milford, Staffs just a stones throw away from Cannock Chase. 

Matt is also a prolific event organiser for both the MTB and running community, his biggest and most looked forward to event has to be Exposure Twentyfour12, 4 days of a running and riding festival culminating in 24 hours of racing around the historic Newnham Estate near Plymouth. 

We wanted to know what it's like trying to organise events like this during a pandemic. How 2021 is shaping up, the trials and tribulations of refunds, cancellations, lack of entries and why he does it when usually he ends up out of pocket.... 

Oh and also listen out for a guest appearance from Millie.... the resident shop cat....