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The Phantom of the Opera is by most measures the single most successful piece of musical theater of all time. Somehow it’s escaped the scrutiny of the Overthinkers, until Mark Lee returned from a visit to the immersive reimagining of the show, Masquerade, as a changed man, utterly obsessed, driven to madness, and wearing a porcelain mask covering half of his face.

Enchanted by Mark’s newfound enthusiasm for Phantom, Pete Fenzel and Matt Wrather followed him to the underground lair to make the Podcast of the Night. The panel explores how a sense of place undergirds both versions of the show, the many different ways the “problematic” character and actions of the Phantom can be interpreted, and whether or not the show is any good at all—or if it’s all just a noisy maximalist thrill ride (DUN DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUN). Spoilers for the immersive version, in particular its ending, which radically recontextualizes the Phantom and his relationship with his own sense of self worth.

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Further Reading

• Masquerade, the immersive version of Phantom, now playing in NYC


• The 2011 stage version of Phantom at the Royal Albert Hall (free to watch via the Internet Archive)


• Lindsay Ellis video essay on the regrettable sequel, Love Never Dies