On this week's episode, I chat to Anne Griffin, author of When All Is Said. Anne came to writing later in life, publishing debut novel - a runway hit - in her 50s. I travelled to Anne's lovely home to chat about her childhood love of Bundy, mutual awe of Countess Marchiviez and the vital role of laughter in getting you through tragedy. Books mentioned in this episode include: The Ladybird Classic Series - Nursery Rhymes; The Princess & The Pea; The Princess & The Frog; Rapunzel; Alice Hoffman - Entire backlist; Enid Blython - Malory Towers; St Clare's / Bunty Magazine/ Mary Lawson - The Crow Lake series/ John Connolly - He/ Jay McInerney - Modern Behaviour; The Last of The Savages/ Jonathan Coe - What A Carve Up; Alice Hoffman - 7th Heaven; Anne Tyler - Entire backlist/ Mike McCormack - Getting It In The Head/ Richard Russo - Nobody's Fool/ Éilís Ní Dhuibhne - Twelve Thousand Days/ Girls Don't Do Honours - Mary Cullen/ Turtle Moon - Alice Hoffman/ Kit De Vall - The Trick To Time/ Take Nothing With You - Patrick Gale/ Chances Are - Richard Russo/ The Destiny Thief - Richard Russo