In this special edition of the Leaked Lunch podcast series we substitute a face-to-face lunch for a cross-continent Zoom call with Erik Townsend, the host of the Macro Voices financial podcast. Erik joins us to discuss the important topic of media trustworthiness and how independent voices like his can bring balance back to publishing. We dicuss the media's treatment of the Wuhan lab leak theory, the pluses and minuses of independent media and whether censorship can ever be justified. The conversation was recorded on Tuesday, November 22, 2022.