In this week’s episode of Gut the System I am walking and talking to the deeply considered and incredible astute Eugene Scholten.

Eugene and I met over a year ago now, on another walk, so recording this episode with Eugene felt like picking up exactly where we left off. This episode also happens to be my first international episode. I met Eugene on his home turf in The Netherlands.

I wanted to record this episode with Eugen because not only has he had an extremely interesting and varied career through the wider food and agriculture world, but over his distinguished career Eugene has also had several moments of deep reflection, into what leadership is and how to bring others around you on a new and different journey. It is a topic I am particularly interested in because it is not only going to take pledges and goodwill, to make the changes to our systems but we will also need inspiring and deeply conscious leadership, which Eugene practises.

In this episode we ramble from Eugene’s heritage as a Dutch man, and how that consciously or subconsciously effected his career path, to what conscious leadership is and some of the tools and methods Eugene uses, when in positions of leadership, not only to bring others along with him but to also be reflective of his own impact and position.

I think this episode, although centred around the food industry, really draws ideas and learnings from a broader set of principles, so please be sure to share it far and wide. I greatly enjoyed talking to Eugene and I hope you enjoy listening too.

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