In this Eurovision-week bonus episode, Steve Pretty is joined by actor, singer, and former UK Eurovision contestant Frances Ruffelle, recorded live at Wilton’s Music Hall.

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00:00 – Intro from Steve

Steve explains this emergency Eurovision-themed sub episode and gives updates on the podcast relaunch, including work with the Natural History Museum and upcoming Wilton’s shows.

02:30 – Why Eurovision?

Steve admits he was a bit of a Eurovision skeptic — until diving into the history while preparing for this chat with Frances.

03:45 – Meet Frances Ruffelle

Tony Award-winning actor, West End and Broadway star, and the UK’s 1994 Eurovision entry. Frances joins Steve for a live conversation and performance at Wilton’s Music Hall.

05:55 – Opening music: Mood Indigo

Live duet of Duke Ellington’s Mood Indigo.

07:00 – Am I a ‘proper’ musician?

Frances reflects on musical self-doubt, and Steve challenges the idea that you need classical training to be ‘real.’

08:40 – Storytelling through song

Frances talks about music as a storytelling tool — especially in theatre.

10:30 – Growing up with music hall

Frances shares her roots in music hall, her mum Sylvia Young’s legacy, and her first performance at age five.

14:00 – The history of Wilton’s

A deep dive into the family connection to Wilton’s Music Hall and its restoration.

17:00 – Musicals vs ‘play with music’

Frances discusses a new show she’s writing with Alan Cumming and how it blends genres.

19:00 – Eurovision 1994: Behind the Scenes

How the BBC approached her, why she initially said no, and how it all unfolded — including singing eight songs for the selection show.

21:30 – Live orchestra, no nerves

Frances recounts the Eurovision performance experience in Dublin — nerves, glam, and all.

23:00 – On music’s purpose

Steve asks: “What’s the point of music?” Frances’s answer: “Togetherness and freedom.”

24:00 – Live Eurovision performance

Frances sings her 1994 song Lonely Symphony (We Will Be Free) live — her first public performance of it in 30 years.

26:00 – Outro

Steve teases upcoming content, invites contributions for Clip n Mix, and encourages sign-ups to the newsletter and Patreon.

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