Join Malcolm and Simone Collins as they dive deep into the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination. This episode explores the online and real-world communities connected to the event, the reactions from various groups, and the broader cultural and political implications. The discussion covers radicalization, the role of online subcultures, media narratives, and the impact on public discourse. Thought-provoking and unfiltered, this conversation challenges mainstream perspectives and encourages critical thinking about current events.

Malcolm Collins: So, in a A Steam group that was titled, read This If You're Gay, which is like, for like memes and stuff.

Simone Collins: Oh was, so is that what that one bullet engraving was? If you're reading this, you are gay.

Malcolm Collins: Oh yeah, he

Simone Collins: mentioned the steam group in the bullet. I hadn't even noticed that. Yeah, if you're reading this, you are gay, Lowell, something like that.

Malcolm Collins: They're described a radical, far left trans individual

posted quote, you guys, I have something big, big in all caps coming soon. Just be sure to check the news. You'll know it when you see it in quote, oh gosh. Immediately after the shooting they quote tweeted that other quote saying something big's about to happen, saying, well, that's that. So, was Sky Valez? Trans as well. , Released a song a few months before this titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31. And then they released a song titled Charlie Kirk's Death Isn't Enough for Me

We'll be going over the individual who said September 10th is gonna be a very interesting day. And then I plead the fifth. The person who said, Charlie Kirk doesn't know what's going to happen tomorrow. , The person who said, wouldn't it be funny if someone shot Charlie Kirk on September 10th?

If it is true that a large number of trans individuals were aware of this attack before it happened, that's something we need to introduce into the public conversation, this wouldn't be the first trans murder cult that we've talked about on this show. Look at the Ians. But if trans murderer cults are becoming a thing, that's something we need to be talking about. I.

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Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today, today. We are going to be talking about a number of things related to the Charlie Kirk assassination.

I'm not excited about the assassination. I already had the day where I said, I'm not excited to be here with you today 'cause we were talking about that specifically. And that's not what we're talking about today. Today we're gonna talk about a few areas. One, we are going to be talking about a couple convergent phenomenons that are worse unpacking, which is the huge array of people who, with their public accounts are going out and saying.

I am glad that this happened. I am glad that this person was killed because of their, you know, very, if you look at his actual beliefs instead of like the random out of context quotes that you'll get from leftists, he's just boomer conservative. He's, he is not new, right. But he is very generic boomer conservative.

And these people are saying, no. I,

Simone Collins: I would say he's even, even more open than that. Or maybe hippie boomer conservative. Yeah. Hippie

Malcolm Collins: boomer, conservative. Yeah. He is, if, if you're like, I think people with those beliefs should be. Killed because that's what you're saying

Simone Collins: then you

Malcolm Collins: think

Simone Collins: most centrists in

Malcolm Collins: America

Simone Collins: or Christians should be

Malcolm Collins: killed, basically.

Yeah. And the number of people, like, we're gonna go over a number of teachers who have done this, the number of people who make video games and like run studios. We're gonna go over people in the medical field who have done this. You're, you're, and. Two things are interesting. One is that, that they feel that it's okay to say something like, I think mainstream conservatives should be killed without realizing that that's what they're, I mean, because they've been convinced that mainstream conservatives are extremists when they hold positions that most Americans have hold for the past 50 years.

Yeah. You know, they won. Feel safe going out and doing this Right. And, and by the way, if you wanna do something about this, don't complain to hr. And Asma Gold said, don't go to the top of your, your company go to OSHA and say you don't feel safe, because then the government has to do something.

I love

Simone Collins: that advice. Yeah.

Malcolm Collins: And the CEO. Is very likely to respond if a company is getting a lot of OSHA complaints and it can be done anonymously. So you just say, this person is saying that they want to kill mainstream conservatives. Right? Or they think this is a good thing, right?

Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: And I don't feel safe in this environment.

And, and that will, but the other thing that's interesting is that people are even addressing this. Like people are responding to this. Like, you, it, it, it feels like these people wouldn't have been fired. Three years ago or something like that. So we are absolutely now seeing a shift. Like, it's like, oh, well this is just like you guys, where you said you know, trans people are, are, are not a disenfranchised group, and in fact are a group in power because they are a group you are not allowed to criticize or you could be fired.

Like if you misgender them, you could be fired. And I'm like. There's a big difference for being fired for misgendering somebody and celebrating that somebody was shot in front of their children and saying that that should happen again in the future. Yeah. Like those are two categories of, one is being mildly inconvenienced and the other is demanding genocide.

Simone Collins: Well, and egging on a complete degradation or, or. And to public civility and, and safety in order and law following. But, but I also wanna

Malcolm Collins: point out here, and this is also really important, is the people who are like, well, then you should just never say that anyone, no matter what they're doing, should be punished in a way that is outside of the legal system, like you are just out against extra judicial killings.

I'm absolutely not, because I think if we look at where society is going right now, eventually we may need to. Rise up, right? Like, we may need to fight against this system if it becomes too dictatorial, if it becomes too controlling, that may happen within our lifetimes, and that involves extra judicial killings, right?

So these people who think that they've just found this safe position of, oh, well, just never, ever, ever rise up, just never, ever, ever revolt, well then what happens? Right. Like you, you need to be like, no. The problem is not the extra judicial killing thing, it's the extra judicial killing for like mainstream normal beliefs.

That is, that is psychotic, especially beliefs that aren't really hurting anyone. Mm-hmm. And we can get to, we got to that in the last episode. Well, people will be like, oh, we had all these beliefs that hurt people. No we didn't. It's very boomer conservative stuff. But anyway another thing I wanna get to, which is what we're gonna start with here, because I found this really fascinating, is in the last episode.

I made the prediction that I suspected this person was going to be trans or have ties to the trans community, right? Like this lighter sort of trans community thing comes out. Who this guy is, everyone is saying Malcolm, you mis called it like, I don't like that you get ahead of your skis on this stuff.

And I'm like, no, no, no. You have to get ahead of your skis if you have a worldview. Right. And this worldview cannot predict future events, right? Like it's a non predictive worldview. It cannot give you insight into why a country is doing something or what a country is gonna do next, or what a movement is going to do next, or what type of person is gonna do x.

You do not have a useful worldview like that. That worldview remains untested. And so I made a prediction that, one, a group, a very rare group in the us, it makes up like 1.5% of the US population was gonna be involved in this. Since the shooting has happened, some very interesting things have happened and, and people have done more researching.

Obviously the big one is, but I actually think that this might be less important, is that the, this, this, this person's, the person who they were in a relationship with and were living with turned out to be a trans person.

Simone Collins: So do we, do we have proof that they're in a relationship? Yes.

Malcolm Collins: The police have confirmed they were in a relationship.

Simone Collins: Whoa.

Malcolm Collins: So this isn't like random speculation anymore. This is, I think it was like the governor of Utah specifically confirmed this. So we'll get to that. I actually think that that person. So a lot of people have kept trying to be like, oh, here's this trans person online that seemed to have knowledge of the shooting before it happened.

This is this person's partner, romantic partner account. And then as we dig deeper, it turns out no, they were actually a different trans person and not this person's partner. Oh. So what we are