Most people talk about farming. This time, we talk with someone living it.

Kristin Demoranville sits down with Jonathan Lawler, also known as the Punk Rock Farmer. He’s a full-time American farmer based in Indiana, a food security advocate, and an agricultural filmmaker who doesn’t pull punches.

Jonathan doesn’t speak in soundbites; he tells stories. About what happens when operational tech fails. About the emotional toll of farming through crisis. About how activism, algorithms, and food marketing have warped our view of modern agriculture.

This isn’t a polished farm-to-table fantasy. It’s real, raw, and exactly the kind of conversation we should be having, because how can we protect something if we don’t understand it?

You’ll hear:

• What cyber-physical failure actually looks like when animals are on the line


• Why food insecurity isn’t about food—it’s about broken systems


• How social media distorts the public’s understanding of farming


• The unseen toll of disease outbreaks, disruption, and public pressure


• Why storytelling—not slogans—is agriculture’s most underused tool

If you care about food systems, or just want to hear what it’s like to farm without all the  BS… start here.

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🔗 Follow Jonathan Lawler, The Punk Rock Farmer

Website: punkfarmermedia.com

LinkedIn: Jonathan Lawler

Instagram: @thepunkrockfarmer

YouTube: Punk Farmer Media

Farm:  Brandy Wine Creek Farms

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Episode Key Highlights

00:04:32 – How Feeding the Hungry Became a Mission

00:13:28 – Farmers and the Public Narrative

00:18:15 – Animal Welfare Meets Cyber Risk

00:22:40 – Avian Flu and the Reality of Culling

00:26:18 – The Cost of Activist Misinformation

00:32:40 – The Myth of the "Natural" Label

00:38:55 – Infrastructure, Cybersecurity, and Power

00:46:55 – Behind the Scenes of Ag-Focused Film

00:49:10 – How Media Shapes Public Perception of Farmers

00:54:10 – Why Farmers Don’t Speak Up

01:00:38 – Final Thoughts and What Needs to Change

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🛡️ About AnzenSage & AnzenOT

AnzenSage is a women-owned cybersecurity advisory firm specializing in security resilience for the food, agriculture, zoo, and aquarium industries.  AnzenSage offers practical, strategic guidance to help organizations anticipate risks and build resilience.  Learn more about their offerings at anzensage.com.​

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AnzenOT is the SaaS risk management platform built to bring clarity and control to Operational Technology (OT) cybersecurity.  Designed for critical infrastructure sectors, AnzenOT translates technical risk into clear, actionable insight for decision-makers. Explore the platform at anzenot.com. For demo requests or inquiries, email stuart@anzenot.com or kristin@anzenot.com

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