In this reflective episode, I sit down with Ben to explore the role of feelings in leadership and work. We talk about how emotions don’t switch off when you walk through the office door, how they influence our relationships, and why dismissing them can lead to burnout. 

I share my own experiences of trying to suppress emotions early in my career, and how learning to see feelings as data has completely shifted the way I work and lead.

Together we explore the impact of personal transitions, how unspoken emotions can shape organisational culture, and why giving space for reflection matters so much. 

From small shifts, like noticing the energy in a room, to bigger lessons around burnout and resilience, this conversation is a reminder that feelings aren’t a weakness, they’re a source of insight and connection.

Here are the highlights:

Starting with how we’re really feeling (03:17 )

When personal transitions spill into work life (04:59 )

The old advice that led me to suppress emotions (10:00 )

Why bottling up feelings can fuel burnout (15:00 )

Seeing feelings as data, not distractions (21:36 )

Small interventions that shift the energy in a room (30:30 )

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