Welcome to episode 5 of The Sideload, a podcast by 9to5Google. This week, Will is joined by Michael Fisher, better known online as Mr. Mobile. Although perhaps best known for his love of foldables, Michael published several reviews this year focusing on minimalist gadgets, ranging from the Minimal Phone (MP01) to the Light Phone 3. Together, Will and Michael discuss the ups and downs of an always-connected society, whether these devices actually improve your mindset, and what they miss about the internet's good old days.

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Timestamps

• 00:00 - Intro





• 03:25 - What's it like using minimalist phones in 2025?





• 13:30 - The old internet vs. the new internet





• 29:50 - The age of AI smartphones





• 32:59 - Your dream minimalist smartphone





• 53:45 - Wrap-up

Hosts

• Will Sattelberg





• Michael Fisher
  
  
  
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