From the day the FBI arrested him in 2003 and told him the government was seeking the death penalty, Benjamin Frandsen labored fiercely for his release. His case was overturned twice on appeal (his third trial will likely be overturned again this year), and he was found suitable for parole three times in a row.  Five separate times he beat LIFE in California.  After 18 years fighting a sentence that began as Life Without the Possibility of Parole, the Parole Board finally released him on December 10, 2021.
     Let me introduce all of you to my guest the intelligent, wise, amazing, bright, loving. caring Michael D McCarty.... clap it up everyone!!!!!! Take a listen to this amazing podcast, about the journey that led to our meeting and how we continued to stay in contact and learn from one another.  We talk about so many unique and interesting things from the Black Panther Party to how Michael got started speaking for a living. Again, grab the healthy snacks or any snacks and give this podcast a listen.