In this first episode, Karl and Laurence discuss the journey of starting this podcast, including their initial meeting and the evolution of their friendship.

They touch on Karl's ongoing struggle to launch his creative projects and Laurence's role in supporting him.

Whilst munching on plentiful snacks over a beer they cover societal expectations, personal growth and why the hell they are doing this in a pub, not a studio (which would have been a hell of a lot easier).

Show notes:

- This week’s snack: ⁠Burton’s Fish & Chips www.burtonsbiscuits.com/our-brands/fish-n-chips/ 

- The Walrus, Brighton ⁠www.thewalrusbrighton.com

- Producer Cherry 'Chezza' Jordan www.linkedin.com/in/cherry-jordan-thebrainspa2023/

- Podcast artwork Dan Woodward www.danwoodward.art

- The Happy Startup School www.thehappystartupschool.com

- Karl prototyping from his van from 2014 https://bit.ly/karl-in-van