Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Jason Herbert to talk about Florida and Seminole history, the role of cattle in identity formation, and where the first cowpeople existed in the United States. Hint: It wasn’t in the Wild West!

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OUTLINE:

0:00 - Introduction

4:42 - Florida: A Remarkable Place

5:43 - Cattle Ranching...A Product of FL?

7:33 - Explaining Seminole, Alachua and the First Cow People

12:48 - Cattle Origins in FL: The Charismatic Megafauna

21:09 - The First Cowboys in Florida 

22:14 - Feral Cattle

22:33 - The Story of Cowkeeper and the Alachua Communities

25:41 - The Seminolization of Florida

26:57 - From Cow Hunting to Cow Ranching: The Impact of Cattle in Florida

38:38 - The Emergence of the Term 'Cracker' and its Significance in Florida

48:37 - Impacts on Native Peoples in Florida

51:55 - How Jason Came Across This Story

54:33 - Reflecting on the Seminole Wars

58:41 - Floridians as Cow People Even Today

1:06:13 - Exploring Florida's Cattle History: Key Locations

1:09:58 - Where You Can Find Jason

EPISODE LINKS:

Jason Herbert – https://jasonherbert.substack.com

Historians at the Movies – https://www.historiansatthemovies.com

Jason on X and Instagram - @HERBERTHISTORY

Deseret Ranch, Florida - https://www.deseretranches.com

Seminole tribe of Florida – https://www.semtribe.com

Miccosukee tribe of Florida – https://miccosukee.com/miccosukee-tribe-history/

Moses Jumper, Jr. – https://seminoletribune.org/q-and-a-with-moses-bigg-shot-jumper-jr/

Dan Flores - https://projectcoyote.org/about/ambassadors/dan-flores/

Juan Ponce de Leon – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Ponce-de-Leon

Creatures of Empire – https://global.oup.com/academic/product/creatures-of-empire-9780195304466?cc=us&lang=en&

Andalusia, Spain – https://www.britannica.com/place/Andalusia-region-Spain

Hernando de Soto – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hernando-de-Soto

Creek – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Creek-people

The Creek War – https://www.britannica.com/event/Creek-War

Panton, Leslie & Company – https://encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/panton-leslie-company/

William Bartram – https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/naturalists/bartram/

Patriot War – https://www.jaxhistory.org/patriot-war-1812/

Seminole Wars – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Seminole-Wars

Florida Cracker Trading Company – https://www.floridacrackerstyle.com

The Land Remembered – https://alandremembered.com

Armed Occupation Act of 1842 – https://myfloridahistory.org/date-in-history/august-04-1842/armed-occupation-act

Osceola – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Osceola-Seminole-leader

Micanopy, Florida – https://micanopytown.com

Paynes Prairie Preserve State Park – https://www.floridastateparks.org/parks-and-trails/paynes-prairie-preserve-state-park

Big Cypress Reservation – https://www.semtribe.com/enterprises/big-cypress-reservation

Everglades National Park – https://www.nps.gov/ever/index.htm

Brooksville, Florida – https://www.nps.gov/ever/index.htm

Lake Placid – https://www.lakeplacidfl.net

Highlands County, Florida – https://www.highlandsfl.gov

Brighton Reservation – https://www.semtribe.com/enterprises/brighton-reservation

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