In this new episode, we take you 200 meters above the ground, into the heart of the Gorges du Verdon, for a suspended conversation with Bronwyn Hodgins, one of the world’s top expedition and big wall climbers.

Bronwyn recently sent her first 8c+, a grade far beyond anything she had climbed before. But behind this athletic achievement lies a powerful and honest story of the burnout she went through — a central theme also explored in the film La Rubia.

🎙️ The interview was recorded by Jan Novak, as we hung together on a portaledge, midway through the legendary Marches du Temps route.

A big thank you to Le Vieux Campeur for their support.

Enjoy the listen, and welcome to the vertical world of Bronwyn Hodgins.