John discusses the sketchy history of Trump cabinet picks Matt Gaetz for Attorney General and RFK Jr. for the Dept. of Health and Human Services. Then, he chats with Reverend Barry Lynn who is a long-time activist, civil liberties lawyer, and an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and served as the executive director for Americans United for the Separation of Church and State until his retirement in 2017. Next John talks with Ward from Florida about the notion that Christian Nationalism is the foundation behind apartheid. And finally he interviews Skye Perryman who is President and CEO of Democracy Forward, a nonpartisan, national legal organization that promotes democracy and progress through litigation, regulatory engagement, policy education, and research. Perryman took the helm at Democracy Forward a few months after January 6, 2021, in the midst of rising extremism in courts across the country.

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