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From Hocker to Mu: The Shocks & Surprises of 2025 & What Comes Next

From Hocker to Mu: The Shocks & Surprises of 2025 & What Comes Next

Update: 2025-10-01
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Jon is back from Japan. Which World Champ did he bump into near Kyoto?


The crew breaks down a crazy 2025 track and field season. What were the biggest shocks and surprises? What does the future hold?


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The Chicago Marathon is next week and so is Athlos and NCAA XC (Jane Hedengren's debut) and USA XC (World XC qualifier) are fast approaching. What are we most excited about? And what about the latest Kenyan doping scandal.



  • Show notes:

  • 00:00 Meeting a World Champion in Japan

  • 01:35 Welcome to the Let's Run Podcast

  • 02:39 Podcast Team Reunion

  • 04:48 Rojo & Jon's living situation

  • 09:56 Analyzing the 2025 Track Surprises

  • 10:15 The biggest surprise of 2025 was...

  • 12:03 Cole Hocker's 5000

  • 16:57 Brazier

  • 19:04 Josh Hoey

  • 22:37 African men won no track titles 1500-10k

  • 28:12 Jon Gault audio on Cole Hocker

  • 32:31 Athing Mu's year

  • 37:43 Guess how many Olympic champs repeated in Tokyo

  • 41:42 Grant Fisher

  • 45:46 Grand Slam Track

  • 49:45 Jimmy Gressier

  • 51:29 Sydney was Sydney

  • 54:18 Michael Norman, Emmanuel Korir

  • 56:54 Upcoming Marathons and Expectations

  • 01:00:50 What are you most excited about for the fall..

  • 01:05:51 US Cross Country Championships

  • 01:13:50 The #1 ranked US 800 and 1500m runner are...

  • 01:18:44 World Ultimate Championships in 2026

  • 01:24:28 Kenyan Doping scandal with bus conductor

  • 01:29:58 Chicago & Athlos next week


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From Hocker to Mu: The Shocks & Surprises of 2025 & What Comes Next

From Hocker to Mu: The Shocks & Surprises of 2025 & What Comes Next