Caroline has a chin wag with her good pal Neil Curtis. A lot of people have approached me over the years with ideas, but never have they really materialised into anything. From our first conversation, I knew Neil and I would get on like a house on fire and have loads of adventures together. Two years later, we have swum three lakes, three peaks style, swum around St Mary's, Scilly and had some daft adventures on rivers in the Midlands. Neil normally drags along the awesome Mrs Curtis along to join Mummy Sax (Caroline's mum) who will often both join us for a dunk.

We discuss Neil's (arguably late) 'mid-life' crisis at 50, time management for parents, Alcatraz, Blind Dave Heeley, The Three Lakes, Scilly, Neil's progress in 2 years, going from wet suits to skins, where to find good sources of information online, our weird friendship, ice swimming, bums, boobs, and little mushrooms. 

Neil will give his tips on his three bits of kit... he has some niche ones! 

Thank you for your support in 2020 Neil, bum, Curtis. I appreciate it hugely thank you for checking in on me a lot, and being my weird friend. You are ace.