Welcome! This week’s guest is the hilarious Gavin Matts! Gavin and Caleb talk the joys and perils of international travel, Canadian Football, sellouts, knives, and much more! 

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So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.