After receiving a heartbreaking email, Ann goes on a mission to prove that 'girls DO like spiders, frogs and all things nature'.'

Featuring:

• Lyra and Julie Gould from Canada
• Dr. Jodi Rowley- Australian Museum and University of NSW
• Professor Maydianne Andrade- University of Toronto
• Dr. Amber Beavis- Office of the Chief Veterinary Officer
• Associate Professor Tanya Latty- Sydney University

Plus excerpts from videos to Lyra from:

• Dr Federica Turco
• Dr Juanita Rodriguez
• Dr Kate Umbers
• Dr Perry Beasley-Hall
• Dr Jessica Fenker
• Josie Styles
• Ying Luo

Plus extra sounds from:

• Christopher MacGregor, ABC Radio National listener with an excellent frog chorus from Bayswater in Perth, WA
• Frank Lambert, with a Spot-throated Babbler recording from Thailand, via xeno canto XC200877 (CC BY-NC 4.0)

Production:

• Ann Jones, Presenter / Producer
• Petria Ladgrove, Producer
• Joel Werner, Script Editing

This episode of What the Duck?! was originally broadcast in 2022 and was produced on the land of the Wadawarrung and the Kaurna people.

Find more episodes of the ABC podcast, What the Duck?! with the always curious Dr Ann Jones exploring the mysteries of nature on the ABC Listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. You'll learn more about the weird and unusual aspects of our natural world in a quirky, fun way with easy to understand science.