Nabeel and Fraser sit down for a round-table discussion with Chris Pedregal, founder and CEO of Granola, an AI note taking app, to discuss Granola’s evolution and product philosophy. Their conversation touches on the challenges of developing user-friendly AI products, and how to balance that with product vision. They also talk about what it’s like being a second-time founder, as well as if and when AI wearables will gain widespread adoption. 

• (00:00 ) - Christopher Pedregal - Granola & the Art of Invisible AI


• (01:05 ) - Second time founder syndrome


• (01:42 ) - The path to Granola


• (04:13 ) - Starting by "playing"


• (11:16 ) - The friend test


• (12:25 ) - Product philosophy behind Granola


• (16:25 ) - AI as Augmentor


• (22:04 ) - Balancing beginner and expert users


• (34:21 ) - Granola's Initial Launch and Challenges


• (34:52 ) - Balancing Product Development and Market Fit


• (35:58 ) - Where Granola is headed from here


• (40:00 ) - Vertical AI vs. General Assistants, who wins where?


• (42:44 ) - The Wisdom of Experts Era


• (50:54 ) - AI passing judgement


• (53:51 ) - Wearables role in AI


• (01:00:25 ) - Social Dynamics and Privacy Concerns


• (01:02:32 ) - The Need for New Norms and Labels


• (01:03:01 ) - What else could be Granola-ized