In this episode, hosts Olivia and Jen sit down with Johnna, a survivor of Happiness Hill Christian Academy. Happiness Hill was an offshoot of Lester Roloff's ministry, run by the Palmers, who had worked closely with Roloff before establishing their own home. Roloff, a well-known fundamentalist pastor and evangelist, left a controversial legacy that continues to be examined.

Johnna bravely shares her experiences, uncovering the abuse she endured and witnessed at Happiness Hill. She reveals shocking new details that even surprised our hosts. As a psychology student, Johnna offers valuable insights into the long-lasting effects of such trauma and emphasizes the importance of seeking professional help. She also discusses the many different forms of therapy available to survivors today.

Thank you, Johnna, for speaking out on today’s episode. And be sure to listen through to the end—do you think Lester Roloff is comparable to Carol Baskins, or is Jen a true conspiracy theorist? Let us know what you think!