In this episode of the 'Lean to the Left' podcast, host Bob Gatty interviews J.D. Mass, author of "Race for What? A White Man's Guide to Healing Racism from Within."

They discuss J.D.'s journey growing up in a diverse neighborhood, his experiences with racism, and his involvement in anti-racist groups. The conversation delves into J.D.'s transformative book, which outlines seven steps to heal racial injustice.

They also touch on political dimensions of racism, J.D.'s podcast 'Same Difference,' and the necessity of addressing systemic and cultural shifts for genuine racial healing.

Please note: The interview took place just before President Biden announced he was stepping aside and endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris to succeed him. There is discussion at about 21 minutes regarding Biden's age and health issues and whether Kamala Harris will make it to the Oval Office.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast
00:23 Meet J.D. Mass: Author and Activist
02:00 J.D.'s Early Life and Influences
04:49 Experiences of Racism and Discrimination
09:13 Impact of Martin Luther King Jr.
12:01 Lessons from J.D.'s Journey
15:38 Seven Steps to Healin
g Racism 21:24 Political Landscape and Racism
32:20 J.D.'s Podcast and Final Thoughts

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