In this episode, Malcolm Travers and the M3 panel explore a deeply philosophical concept called “hell loops”—cyclical systems that perpetuate suffering and control. Drawing from a TikTok video, they discuss how this idea applies not only to Western religious paradigms of God and Satan, but also to capitalism and personal belief systems. The conversation then shifts to why some people feel compelled to have others share their beliefs, and concludes with a reflection on the difference between trust and faith—particularly in the context of science versus religion.

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