Hour 2: Elite QB Status?
Digest
The podcast begins with a discussion about the Chicago Bears' quarterback situation, where the hosts express concern that neither Justin Fields nor Russell Wilson has shown enough to be a clear starting quarterback. They then delve into the debate surrounding elite quarterbacks in the NFL, with Dan arguing for nine and Shannon for a smaller number. They discuss the criteria for elite status, including consistency, ability to win games despite defensive struggles, and overall body of work. The conversation shifts to basketball, sparked by Anthony Edwards's statement that Michael Jordan was the only skilled player in his era. The hosts argue that while today's players may have more athleticism and training, the pioneers of the game laid the foundation for their success. The hosts then discuss the upcoming NFL season, focusing on the quarterback with the highest expectations: Patrick Mahomes. They believe he has the most pressure to deliver another Super Bowl win, given his past success and the team's strong roster. They also debate the expectations for Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson. The podcast concludes with discussions about Dak Prescott's contract negotiations with the Dallas Cowboys and Samson Nakuwa's potential to make the team. The hosts debate whether the Cowboys should sign Prescott before the season starts, considering his high asking price and inconsistent playoff performance. They also believe Nakuwa, the brother of former NFL player Puka Nakuwa, has the potential to contribute as a receiver and special teams player.
Outlines
Quarterback Dilemmas and Elite Status
The hosts discuss the Chicago Bears' quarterback dilemma and debate the criteria for elite quarterbacks in the NFL, highlighting the importance of consistency, winning ability, and overall body of work.
Basketball Skills and Legacy
Anthony Edwards's statement about Michael Jordan sparks a debate about the evolution of basketball skills, acknowledging the contributions of pioneers while recognizing the advancements in athleticism and training.
NFL Season Expectations
The hosts discuss the quarterback with the highest expectations for the upcoming season, focusing on Patrick Mahomes's pressure to deliver another Super Bowl win. They also debate the expectations for Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson.
Contract Negotiations and Player Potential
The hosts discuss Dak Prescott's contract negotiations with the Dallas Cowboys, debating the merits of signing him before the season starts. They also explore Samson Nakuwa's potential to make the team based on his recent impressive performance.
Keywords
Elite Quarterback
A quarterback who consistently performs at a high level, leading their team to wins and demonstrating exceptional skills and decision-making.
Body of Work
The overall performance and achievements of a player over an extended period, demonstrating their consistency and impact on the game.
Quarterback Pressure
The intense scrutiny and expectations placed on a quarterback, particularly in high-stakes situations like playoffs or championship games.
Contract Negotiations
The process of discussing and agreeing on the terms of a player's contract, including salary, length, and incentives.
Franchise Tag
A mechanism in the NFL that allows teams to retain a player for one year at a predetermined salary, preventing them from becoming a free agent.
Special Teams
A unit in American football that handles kickoffs, punts, field goals, and extra points, often featuring players with specific skills and athleticism.
Q&A
What are the main concerns surrounding the Chicago Bears' quarterback situation?
The hosts are concerned that neither Justin Fields nor Russell Wilson has shown enough to be a clear starting quarterback, suggesting a lack of standout performance and potential for a weak season.
What criteria do the hosts use to define an "elite" quarterback in the NFL?
The hosts consider consistency, ability to win games even with defensive struggles, and a strong overall body of work as key factors in determining elite quarterback status.
What is the significance of Anthony Edwards's statement about Michael Jordan's skill level?
Edwards's statement sparked a debate about the evolution of basketball skills, highlighting the importance of acknowledging the pioneers who paved the way for today's players.
Why do the hosts believe Patrick Mahomes has the highest expectations for the upcoming season?
Mahomes is expected to lead the Chiefs to another Super Bowl win, aiming to become the first quarterback to win three consecutive championships. His past success and the team's strong roster create immense pressure.
What are the main arguments for and against signing Dak Prescott to a long-term deal before the season starts?
Supporters argue that Prescott's talent and potential warrant a high salary, while critics point to his inconsistent playoff performance and the risk of overpaying for a player who hasn't consistently delivered in high-stakes games.
What makes Samson Nakuwa a potential asset to the team?
Nakuwa's impressive performance in a recent preseason game, particularly his long punt return, suggests he has the potential to contribute as a receiver and special teams player, increasing his chances of making the team.
Show Notes
Stephen A. Smith, Shannon Sharpe and Dan Orlovsky have a heated debate around the amount of "elite" NFL QBs. The crew reacts to Magic Johnson replying to Anthony Edwards' statement on older players not having skill. And Dan enrages Stephen A and Shannon with his take on NFL QBs having the highest expectations this season.
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