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How Bad Is It?: Trump’s Self-Dealing and the Question of Kleptocracy

How Bad Is It?: Trump’s Self-Dealing and the Question of Kleptocracy

Update: 2025-08-21
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The New Yorker staff writer Andrew Marantz joins Tyler Foggatt for the latest installment of “How Bad Is It?,” a monthly series on the health of American democracy. Their guest is David D. Kirkpatrick, whose new investigation details the many ways President Donald Trump has profited during his second term—from a reported private jet gifted by Qatar to soaring valuations of Trump Media and a flood of crypto ventures. They discuss whether these attempts at self-enrichment amount to ordinary political corruption or whether they represent tools for consolidating power which could accelerate democratic backsliding in the United States, much like in kleptocracies and oligarchies abroad.

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How Bad Is It?: Trump’s Self-Dealing and the Question of Kleptocracy

How Bad Is It?: Trump’s Self-Dealing and the Question of Kleptocracy

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