In this episode of "The Free Lawyer," host Gary interviews Joel Chorny, a veteran criminal defense attorney and former public defender now running a solo practice in Tucson. Joel discusses his transition to solo work, the emotional toll of public defense, and the challenges of building a client base. He shares insights on self-care, mental health, setting boundaries, and the value of coaching and community. Joel also highlights the importance of culturally informed advocacy and honest client communication, offering practical advice for lawyers seeking a more fulfilling and sustainable legal career.

Joel Chorny is a veteran criminal defense attorney and former public defender who has spent over a decade standing up for individuals caught in the harshest corners of the criminal system. Fluent in Spanish and committed to culturally informed advocacy, he now runs a thriving solo practice in Tucson. Joel also teaches trial advocacy at the University of Arizona’s James E. Rogers College of Law, where he trains future lawyers in the art of compelling courtroom storytelling. Outside of his legal work, he’s a devoted husband and father, an avid cyclist, and a student of improv comedy—skills that sharpen both his presence in the courtroom and his perspective on life.

Joel’s Background and Transition Catalyst (00:01:06 )

Emotional Toll and Decision to Leave (00:03:06 )

Mentorship and Planning the Transition (00:05:01 )

Accelerated Transition and Office Opportunity (00:06:11 )

Starting Without Clients and Early Advice (00:07:36 )

Building a Caseload and Court Appointments (00:08:29 )

Cultural Background and Language Skills (00:09:42 )

Managing Emotional Weight and Self-Care (00:11:00 )

Accepting Limits and Caseload Realities (00:13:12 )

Choosing Clients and Setting Boundaries (00:14:19 )

Control, Outcomes, and Client Expectations (00:16:14 )

Challenges of Attracting Clients and Marketing (00:19:49 )

Doubts, Optimization, and Imposter Syndrome (00:21:12 )

Dealing with Career Anxiety and Support (00:22:07 )

Work-Life Balance and Transition Rituals (00:24:41 )

Quality Time and Family Anchors (00:26:54 )

Teaching Trial Advocacy (00:27:52 )

Value of Coaching and Seeking Support (00:31:08 )

Breakthroughs from Coaching (00:33:42 )

Advice for Lawyers: Support and Community (00:39:27 )

Giving Back and Building Community  (00:41:57 )

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