Digest

Jonathan Van Ness, host of the podcast "Getting Curious", interviews Ann Curson, Dean of Literature, Science and the Arts at the University of Michigan, about the history and evolution of language. They discuss the origins of grammar rules, the power of language, and the importance of being a caretaker of language rather than a gatekeeper. Ann explains how the history of English grammar is intertwined with class mobility and the rise of the middle class, and how the rules of grammar have been used to police language and create a sense of what is considered "correct" or "refined." They also discuss the evolution of pronouns, particularly the use of "they/them" pronouns for singular non-binary individuals, and how language can be used to express identity and respect. The conversation touches on the history of swear words and how they can be used to express intimacy, power, and humor. Ann emphasizes the importance of being a generous listener and recognizing that language is constantly changing and evolving. Jonathan shares his own experiences with language and how he has learned to be more mindful of the impact of his words. The episode ends with a discussion of Taylor Swift's music and how she uses language in a creative and powerful way.

Outlines

00:00:00

Airbnb: Your Home Could Be Making Money

This Chapter discusses the potential of using your home as an Airbnb rental, highlighting the ease of getting started and the benefits of supporting local economies. It encourages listeners to consider the financial opportunities and side hustle possibilities that Airbnb can offer.

00:01:57

Meeting Shania Twain and the Power of Language

This Chapter introduces Ann Curson, a linguist and historian of the English language, as the guest for the episode. Jonathan shares his excitement about meeting Shania Twain and how her career advice inspired him. He then transitions into discussing his lifelong fascination with language and his desire to use it more effectively.

00:05:33

The History of Linguistics and its Impact on Society

This Chapter delves into Ann's journey into linguistics, starting with her initial interest in math and her discovery of the field through an introductory linguistics course. She highlights the transformative experience of studying the history of the English language and how it sparked her passion for the subject. The conversation then explores the intersection of linguistics with social issues like racism, misogyny, and the patriarchy, prompting a discussion about how language has been used to enforce class and social hierarchies.

00:10:57

The Evolution of Singular "They" Pronouns

This Chapter focuses on the history and usage of singular "they" pronouns, addressing the common misconception that it is a new grammatical development. Ann provides evidence of its use dating back to the 1300s and 1400s, highlighting its long-standing presence in the English language. She challenges the notion that "they" cannot be singular and explains how it has evolved to encompass both gender-neutral and non-binary identities. The discussion emphasizes the importance of respecting people's pronouns as a fundamental aspect of respect and inclusivity.

00:18:39

The Rise of Grammarians and the Standardization of Language

This Chapter examines the origins and influence of grammarians in shaping the English language. Ann explains how the earliest grammars emerged in the 18th century, driven by the desire for social mobility and the rise of the middle class. She discusses how these grammars aimed to "refine" English and establish a standardized form of the language, leading to the naturalization of certain rules and the marginalization of other varieties of English. The conversation highlights the impact of these grammars on education and the perception of "correct" language, emphasizing the need to challenge the notion that there is only one right way to speak and write.

00:23:48

Language in Education and the Importance of Curiosity

This Chapter explores the role of language in education and the need for a more inclusive and engaging approach to teaching language. Ann advocates for starting with the fundamentals of how language works, exploring dialects, and fostering curiosity about the origins and evolution of language. She emphasizes the importance of understanding that dictionaries are not infallible and that language is constantly changing. The conversation highlights the need to challenge the prescriptive approach to language education and embrace the diversity of language.

00:41:19

The Power of Taboo Words and the Importance of Caretaking

This Chapter delves into the history and significance of taboo words, including swear words, epithets, and words related to taboo topics like death and sex. Ann explains how these words demonstrate the power of language and how they can be used to express intimacy, humor, and power. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing that language is not just words but a powerful tool that shapes our identities and relationships. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the importance of being a caretaker of language, understanding its evolution, and embracing its diversity.

00:49:50

Language in Music and the Eras Tour

This Chapter explores the use of language in music, specifically referencing Taylor Swift's music and how she uses linguistics in a creative and powerful way. Jonathan expresses his admiration for Swift's lyrical prowess and how she uses language to evoke emotions and tell stories. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing and appreciating the artistry of language in music and other forms of creative expression.

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Q&A

• What is the history of singular "they" pronouns and why is it important?

  Singular "they" pronouns have been used in English for centuries, dating back to the 1300s and 1400s. It's not a new grammatical development, but rather a long-standing part of the language. It's important because it allows for a gender-neutral way to refer to someone when their gender is unknown or irrelevant to the conversation. It also provides a pronoun for non-binary individuals who don't identify as male or female.

• How has the history of English grammar been intertwined with social issues like class and power?

  The earliest grammars emerged in the 18th century, driven by the desire for social mobility and the rise of the middle class. These grammars aimed to "refine" English and establish a standardized form of the language, which often marginalized other varieties of English. This process of standardization has been used to police language and create a sense of what is considered "correct" or "refined." This can perpetuate social inequalities and reinforce existing power structures.

• What is the difference between being a caretaker of language and a gatekeeper of language?

  A caretaker of language understands the history, evolution, and diversity of language and uses it responsibly and respectfully. They embrace the changing nature of language, recognize the power of words, and strive to use language effectively and inclusively. A gatekeeper of language attempts to control or restrict the use of language, often by enforcing rigid rules and standards. They may view language as static and unchanging, and they may be critical of those who use language differently.

• How can we be more mindful of the impact of our language on others?

  We can be more mindful of the impact of our language by being generous listeners, recognizing that language is constantly changing, and embracing the diversity of language. We can also be open to feedback and willing to rethink our language choices when they are perceived as offensive or harmful. It's important to remember that both intention and reception matter, and that we should strive to use language in a way that is respectful and inclusive.

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