In this special episode of The Brighter Side of Blue, we dive deep into the history and heart behind Guns ’N Hoses, St. Louis’ legendary Thanksgiving Eve tradition that brings police and fire together inside the boxing ring for a cause bigger than all of us.

33:30 We sit down with Retired Lt. Col. Jerry Leyshock, who not only fought in the very first Guns ’N Hoses event back in 1987, but continues to play a vital role today — helping train fighters, shaping the program, and coordinating the matchups that have raised millions for BackStoppers families. Jerry brings decades of experience, grit, and behind-the-scenes insight into how this St. Louis staple became what it is today. We’re also joined via phone by Steve Holley, one of the original organizers of Guns ’N Hoses. Together, Jerry and Steve recall some of the most memorable fights, emotional moments, and defining nights from over 35 years of brotherhood, rivalry, and community support.

Before the conversation begins, we open the episode with a tribute to a member of our family — Momma Howard, beloved mother of our own Danny. She recently passed at the age of 95, and we honor her legacy, her spirit, and the love she brought to everyone around her. She truly was our number-one fan. This episode blends history, heart, and the deep bonds shared among St. Louis first responders — both in and out of the ring.

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