“Collaboration isn't just for mega-projects.” 💬 In this powerful episode of The EBFC Show, Jason Brenner (@ Join) joins Felipe to break down how high-performing teams can achieve target value delivery (TVD) on projects of all sizes — not just the billion-dollar ones. 🏗️

With nearly 30 years of construction leadership experience (Genentech, DPR, Excel), Jason shares how he scaled from chemist to strategy exec — and what makes truly collaborative delivery not only possible, but sustainable.

💥 Topics include:

• Why scaling down TVD actually unlocks innovation 💡


• How Jason’s team delivered a 1% budget variance on a major pharma facility 🧪


• The power of hands-on facilitation training and learning by doing 🙌


• Why teams fail when they forget to onboard new people properly 🚨


• The difference between parallel play and integrated collaboration 🎭

Plus, Jason and Felipe get real about:

• The illusion of "too late in design"


• Investing in precon as an insurance policy


• Why trust is the true project multiplier

👀 Whether you're an owner, contractor, or design pro — this convo will challenge how you think about teamwork, culture, and delivering real value in construction. 👉 Don’t miss this one. Like Jason says, “You can’t shortcut your way to collaboration.” Ready to scale smarter?

🕒 Key Timestamps:

00:00 – Why scaling TVD is essential

02:00 – Hands-on learning vs watching

05:20 – Invisible structure behind good meetings

06:04 – Intro to Jason Brenner

08:00 – From chemist to construction pro

12:30 – Trust and high-performing teams

16:00 – Target value delivery on Genentech's award-winning facility

23:00 – Defining collaborative project delivery

28:30 – Breaking down real-world project barriers

38:00 – Why onboarding affects team trust

50:00 – Letting design teams innovate within constraints

54:00 – Integrated play vs parallel play

🎧 Listen now and don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe for more insights on transforming construction practices! 🚀

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Connect with Jason via

LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-brenner-3b29524/

Website at https://join.build/

Connect with Felipe via

Social media and Free Lean and Scrum Training Resources at https://thefelipe.bio.link 

RSM Podia Course Link: https://store.theebfcshow.com/rsm

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Today's episode is sponsored by the Lean Construction Institute (LCI). This non-profit organization operates as a catalyst to transform the industry through Lean project delivery using an operating system centered on a common language, fundamental principles, and basic practices. Learn more at https://www.leanconstruction.org 

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