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Hybrids, dog breeds and DNA: What makes a species?

Hybrids, dog breeds and DNA: What makes a species?

Update: 2025-06-261
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It's a seemingly simple question from What the Duck?! listener Skylar: how do scientists determine a new species?

Turns out, it's complicated.

And it's got Ann Jones impersonating a dog on the internet to try to find out what breed she is, as well as asking, 'what is a species anyway?'.

Featuring:

  • Skyla Seltzer, What The Duck?! listener.
  • Beanz and Henry the dog.
  • Link Olson, Curator of Mammals, University of Alaska Museum.
  • Dr Nicola Rivers, Monash University.
  • Professor Paul Hebert, Scientific Director, International Barcode of Life.
  • Dr Leo Joseph, Australian National Wildlife Collection CSIRO.
  • Tim Low, Biologist and author.

Thanks also to Ying Luo for background information.

Production:

  • Ann Jones, Presenter / Producer.
  • Petria Ladgrove, Producer.
  • Additional mastering: Hamish Camilleri.

This episode of What the Duck?! was originally broadcast in December 2023 and was produced on the land of the Wadawarrung and Kaurna people.

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Hybrids, dog breeds and DNA: What makes a species?

Hybrids, dog breeds and DNA: What makes a species?

Australian Broadcasting Corporation