Meet this episode’s co-hosts: @DrJazzWalker, Experience Researcher II at Twitter, and @AlisaValentin, a tech policy advocate.

In this episode, Dr. Jazz introduces us to her former university colleague, Dr. Alisa, as they discuss their personal journeys from academia into industry, nonprofits, and government work. Plus, they share how their past academic research influenced and prepared them for their current work, and they look back at challenges they endured transitioning away from the “ivory tower.”

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