The podcast discusses how MSPs might work within a post-Brexit, post COVID-19 Scotland, the potential of a further referendum and possible new ways of governance. Furthermore, he will examine his own and his country’s dysfunctional relationship with the beautiful game, to understand the soul and spirit of Scottish football. Neil McLennan is a Senior Lecturer and Director of Leadership Programmes at the University of Aberdeen. Neil and Henry are both fellows of the RSA, previous supporters of May Fest. The University of Aberdeen WORD Centre has kindly supported this event.