In this moving episode of The Holy Wild, Victoria Loorz is joined by Four Arrows (Don Trent Jacobs)—Cherokee author, scholar, and Lakota pipe carrier—for a profound conversation centered on reclaiming a kinship-based worldview. Drawing from Indigenous wisdom, never-before-told personal vision stories, and decades of advocacy, Four Arrows shares how restoring sacred relationship with the Earth begins with shifting our deepest ways of seeing and being. May this conversation serve as a powerful reminder that Indigenous worldviews hold essential guidance for healing our fractured relationship with the more-than-human world.

Mentioned in the episode:

• Book: Restoring Kinship Worldview by Four Arrows and Darcia Narvaez, PhD
• Video: Indigenous worldview can preserve our existence
• Morobe Development Foundation: mdfpng.com
• Book: The Descent of Man - and Selection in Relation to Sex by Charles Darwin
• Book: Mutual Aid: A Factor In Evolution by Peter Kropotkin
• Article: "False Doctrine" and The Stifling Of Indigenous Political Will by Four Arrows
• Quote: "“We must be compelled to hold this doctrine to be false, and the old and new law called the Old and New Testament, to be impositions, fables and forgeries.” by Thomas Paine in The Age of Reason
• Book: Amerindian Rebirth by Antonia Mills
• Book: The Hidden Life Of Trees by Peter Wohlleben
• Podcast: Radiolab on the secret life of trees

Connect with Four Arrows:

• Website: fourarrowsbooks.com
• Chart Download: worldviewliteracy.org

Connect with the Center:

• Website: wildspirituality.earth
• Victoria's Website: victorialoorz.com
• Email: hello@wildspirituality.earth
• Linktree: linktr.ee/ctrforwildspirituality
• Instagram: @center_for_wild_spirituality

Timestamps:

• 0:00 Introduction
• 5:30 Lakota Prayer
• 6:31 Indigenous Worldview Video
• 9:27 Statistics Challenge
• 11:19 Anthropocentrism Harms Relationship
• 11:56 Four Arrows Near Death Experience
• 12:43 There's No Question The Animals Talk With Us
• 13:51 How Do You Know It's The Animal Speaking?
• 18:57 Sharing The Sacred
• 20:05 Binaries
• 23:18 How To De-Other
• 24:30 Human Nature In Our Own Captivity
• 30:00 Noun Verb
• 33:18 Relationship Is Action
• 36:21 Humans Are Not A Cancer
• 37:26 Differing Worldviews
• 40:29 Asking Permission Of Plants
• 41:56 The Science Is Catching Up
• 43:58 Closing Flute Song
• 47:13 Wandering Invitation
• 49:16 Michele with River and Wind
• 51:16 Credits

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