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Indispensable: Why Ukraine is becoming a fundamental part of the future European security architecture

Indispensable: Why Ukraine is becoming a fundamental part of the future European security architecture

Update: 2025-11-18
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**Title: Indispensable: Why Ukraine is becoming a fundamental part of the future European security architecture **


Regions: Ukraine, Europe


Teaser: Nearly four years after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the majority of European states see Ukraine inside and Russia outside the European security order. Susan Stewart, Céline Marangé and Kai-Olaf Lang explain why such an order is emerging and what might prevent it.
Guests:
Dr Céline Marangé is a senior research fellow on Russia and Ukraine at the Institute of Strategic Research (IRSEM) in Paris.
Dr Susan Stewart is a senior research fellow at SWP’s Eastern Europe and Eurasia division. She also co-leads SWP’s Thematic Working Group “Reordering European Security”.
Dr Kai-Olaf Lang is a senior fellow at SWP’s Europe Division. His research focuses on Central and Eastern Europe and the Baltic countries.


Host: Esme Nicholson


Recommended reading:


The Tipping Point: An Emerging Model of European Security with Ukraine and without Russia - Stiftung Wissenschaft und Politik

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Indispensable: Why Ukraine is becoming a fundamental part of the future European security architecture

Indispensable: Why Ukraine is becoming a fundamental part of the future European security architecture

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