Imagine going undercover in a country where one wrong move could cost you your life. Would you have the courage to accept that mission? What would motivate you to take such a risk?

We interviewed Ulrich Larsen, a Danish spy who infiltrated North Korea's inner circles, to learn more about international espionage and human rights exposure.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:01 Introduction and Guest Welcome
01:22 Childhood Influences and Early Experiences
03:56 First Encounters with East Germany
04:47 Documentary Inspiration and North Korean Fascination
06:50 Joining the Danish Friendship Association
10:07 First Trip to North Korea
12:06 Gaining Trust and Filming in North Korea
14:49 Infiltration Strategy and CIA Training
24:22 Avoiding Surveillance Tactics
25:11 First Visit to North Korea
25:31 The Otto Warmbier Incident
26:03 Building Trust with North Korea
26:44 The Role of the Fake Investor
26:59 Maintaining Secrecy
28:14 The North Korean Friendship Association
30:12 The Three-Year Plan
31:24 The Investor's Arrival
33:49 Meeting North Korean Officials
39:18 The Bizarre Karaoke Incident
42:11 Close Calls and Irony
45:16 Feeling Like James Bond
45:58 Personal Life
46:21 The Secret Mission Revealed
47:28 Family and Secrecy
48:40 Security Concerns and Life Changes
49:56 Encounters and Risks
51:59 North Korean Adventures
54:25 Infiltration and Espionage
57:45 Lessons and Reflections
1:04:43 Training and Insights
1:07:38 Discussing Motivation and Employment
1:08:08 Undercover Work and Public Exposure
1:09:01 Balancing Family and Public Life
1:10:07 Insights on Leadership and Roles
1:11:43 Future Aspirations and Inspirational Speaking
1:12:37 Stories of North Korean Defectors
1:14:07 Views on Donald Trump and Global Politics

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